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Survivor Room / Re: Self inflicted trauma? *Trigs- SH, Sui*
« Last post by Turtle on December 18, 2020, 07:44:19 PM »
I'm sorry you're struggling so much with this. :hug2: There's a lot going on emotionally (and physically) with serious sh/suicide attempts. I find the word trauma confusing because different people seem to use it differently - but suicide attempts (like near death experiences) are such a huge life event that it's certainly going to have an impact.

I have had similar experiences - I really struggle with blood tests (lots of panicking!) because it's a similar sensation to sh, sometimes I get memories of different things, sometimes they feel quite physical.

Talking with your CC sounds sensible. It sounds really difficult at the moment. Even if it's what you wanted at the time, it was really the illness wanting it (if that makes sense). It is a confusing thing to get your head around for sure! I hope your CC can give some advice for how to deal with those intense memories/feelings.
Survivor Room / Re: Self inflicted trauma? *Trigs- SH, Sui*
« Last post by Tucan on December 18, 2020, 06:17:09 PM »
Suicidal experiences are traumatic. They leave a lasting impression with you. I get where you are coming from. I feel for you.
Survivor Room / Self inflicted trauma? *Trigs- SH, Sui*
« Last post by Vermilion on December 18, 2020, 03:02:55 PM »
I'm not sure if it's possible to traumatise myself by self by self inflicted injuries. There are times when I've been in serious danger of death both through actual suicide attempts and times when the self harm has accidentally become life threatening. Most recently, I attempted to take my own life (obviously I can't/won't go into specifics) but I find that I get extremely vivid memories and dreams of the event, it's as though I'm reliving it over and over again with both the physical/medical consequences of the act itself and the emotions that I was feeling at the time.
 I'm also struggling with the confusing emotions of guilt and embarrassment but also wishing that I'd succeeded but relieved that I didn't. It's a dichotomy I know; on the one side the thought that I almost stepped into oblivion is frightening and unsettling and yet it's appealing as well because all of the daily crap that I struggle with would be over and there would be no struggle anymore. I can't figure out how I feel about it, it's confusing me.

I've written a note to my CC and we'll speak on Tuesday but I'm wondering if anyone else gets this. It's akin to the experiences I get with certain other traumas that I've had in that I'm getting the various vivid memories and dreams and strange feelings etc but this is self inflicted and what I wanted at the time. Have I traumatised myself a little? Is it possible? I'm finding it very confusing.
Archived research topics / Your story can make a difference!
« Last post by Sara.CP on November 25, 2020, 06:56:38 PM »
Hello everyone :)

I'm a trainee Clinical Psychologist at Lancaster University currently looking for participants for my thesis research project: "The experience of young men who self-harm: A qualitative study of the communicative and relational aspects of self-harm."

We are looking for young men aged between 18-30, who self-harm or self-harmed in the past, to help in understanding better the experience of self-harm in young men. We understand self-harm as any action done on purpose knowing that it might cause physical harm, but without the intent to end life. Participating will involve doing a confidential interview with me.

Let me know if you want to participate or contact me if you have any questions :)

Phone: 07508406276 (you can drop me a message or ring me)
Email: [email protected]

For more information:
Feel free to share this with anyone who might be interested.

I'm looking forward to hearing from you. Thank you, your help is very much appreciated

TW: Self-harm

Hi everyone,

For my doctoral research project, I am looking for young adults based in the UK to hear about  personal experiences of growing up with at least one brother or sister who started to self-harm as a teenager in an (online) interview.

You may be able to help us if you...
  • Are 16-24 years old?
  • Lived with a brother or sister (ages 10-24) who self-harmed two or more times?
  • Do not currently live with this sibling?

For anyone interested, please go to:

You can also contact me at [email protected] with any questions about the project.

Thank you! Nienke

Survivor Room / Re: Exercise IS NOT a cure-all! (Grumble)
« Last post by Vermilion on November 18, 2020, 12:38:09 AM »
I do understand why it might be recommended initially, there are certainly benefits to be had from exercising and it should be tried before things like antidepressants but I'm just fed up of the implication that it solves everything. I think that it's a useful tool to be used alongside other tools, not as the ultimate cure-all. I'll admit that I need to work on positive thinking, the 'nocebo' effect is a very real thing though I'd say that it emphasises the need for several tools to build a better MH.

I don't exercise outside that much, I'm way too self conscious and clumsy but info get outside for some daylight. I know that it's really important to get some daylight.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that exercise can be great alongside other treatments and it would be helpful if people just acknowledged that it doesn't work that well for everyone.
Survivor Room / Re: Exercise IS NOT a cure-all! (Grumble)
« Last post by Tucan on November 17, 2020, 09:28:17 AM »
My counsellor is suggesting that I go out each day to expose myself to sunlight. Not necessarily exercise but have exposure to sunlight in a bid to stave off my annual winter depression.
Survivor Room / Re: Exercise IS NOT a cure-all! (Grumble)
« Last post by Rob on November 17, 2020, 12:40:57 AM »
Some people don't need exercise because their daily lifestyle is active enough, but most people in the UK would benefit from a more active lifestyle - it has beneficial physical effects across the board which might translate to feeling better mentally.

Positive thought has more impact than a lot of people credit; a recent double blind study on perceived side effects from patients taking statins shown that around half of the side effects were actually entirely psychosomatic because they'd anticipated these symptoms from reading the information sheet - the 'negative' publicity. Depression is real and exercise might or might not help alleviate it, but the relationship between good physical and good mental health means it's not surprising that suggesting exercise & positive thinking can be considered good starting points - and if that's not enough then it's time to explore more complex avenues, but always try the basic ways first.
Survivor Room / Re: Exercise IS NOT a cure-all! (Grumble)
« Last post by Vermilion on November 16, 2020, 10:15:40 PM »
Ah, the mild depression peeps! I have family members who often go on about how they've had depression and exercise solved everything blah blah blah. It's annoying when they think that depression is purely emotional, like we can just cheer ourselves up! I would have done so if I could! I can forgive that though but professionals should really know better. Just some acknowledgement would be helpful because I really do try and sometimes I really start to doubt myself. I know that the NHS is underfunded but do profs really need to make us doubt our own integrity? It's so frustrating because it feels like no one is listening.
Survivor Room / Re: Exercise IS NOT a cure-all! (Grumble)
« Last post by Turtle on November 16, 2020, 08:48:25 PM »
I agree. There have been times it's helped, but times it has not - and it's certainly something I've used as a form of punishment/self destruction. My GP got very excited when I said I was running lots, told me to keep running, I promptly damaged both my knees from pushing myself too much. ::)

I think it's just an easy fix, particularly for people who have relatively mild depression/anxiety? And the people it does help are very loud and insistent about it! It would be nice if more complex mh issues could be fixed with pilates - but unfortunately it takes more than that and the NHS is chronically underfunded.
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