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Survivor Room / Re: Exercise IS NOT a cure-all! (Grumble)
« Last post by Tucan on November 17, 2020, 09:28:17 AM »
My counsellor is suggesting that I go out each day to expose myself to sunlight. Not necessarily exercise but have exposure to sunlight in a bid to stave off my annual winter depression.
Survivor Room / Re: Exercise IS NOT a cure-all! (Grumble)
« Last post by Rob on November 17, 2020, 12:40:57 AM »
Some people don't need exercise because their daily lifestyle is active enough, but most people in the UK would benefit from a more active lifestyle - it has beneficial physical effects across the board which might translate to feeling better mentally.

Positive thought has more impact than a lot of people credit; a recent double blind study on perceived side effects from patients taking statins shown that around half of the side effects were actually entirely psychosomatic because they'd anticipated these symptoms from reading the information sheet - the 'negative' publicity. Depression is real and exercise might or might not help alleviate it, but the relationship between good physical and good mental health means it's not surprising that suggesting exercise & positive thinking can be considered good starting points - and if that's not enough then it's time to explore more complex avenues, but always try the basic ways first.
Survivor Room / Re: Exercise IS NOT a cure-all! (Grumble)
« Last post by Vermilion on November 16, 2020, 10:15:40 PM »
Ah, the mild depression peeps! I have family members who often go on about how they've had depression and exercise solved everything blah blah blah. It's annoying when they think that depression is purely emotional, like we can just cheer ourselves up! I would have done so if I could! I can forgive that though but professionals should really know better. Just some acknowledgement would be helpful because I really do try and sometimes I really start to doubt myself. I know that the NHS is underfunded but do profs really need to make us doubt our own integrity? It's so frustrating because it feels like no one is listening.
Survivor Room / Re: Exercise IS NOT a cure-all! (Grumble)
« Last post by Turtle on November 16, 2020, 08:48:25 PM »
I agree. There have been times it's helped, but times it has not - and it's certainly something I've used as a form of punishment/self destruction. My GP got very excited when I said I was running lots, told me to keep running, I promptly damaged both my knees from pushing myself too much. ::)

I think it's just an easy fix, particularly for people who have relatively mild depression/anxiety? And the people it does help are very loud and insistent about it! It would be nice if more complex mh issues could be fixed with pilates - but unfortunately it takes more than that and the NHS is chronically underfunded.
Survivor Room / Exercise IS NOT a cure-all! (Grumble)
« Last post by Vermilion on November 16, 2020, 08:25:23 PM »
I'm tired of people telling me that exercise is some sort of cure-all, like I can exercise my way out of this hell that is my brain. If it were so I wouldn't be on the verge of tears less than an hour after working out for 1.5 hours. I work out 4 times a week (unless I'm ill or mental) and still wanted to kill myself, it doesn't do sh** for my MH. Yes, there are other benefits of exercise but why is it so often plugged as some sort of magical fix it all for MH? It doesn't do anything for my head. And what about when getting out of bed is a challenge, are we supposed to just exercise then? What a load of crap. It doesn't solve everything and I really wish that others would understand this, professional or not.
Survivor Room / Re: SH ED MH Support, moving on etc
« Last post by Vermilion on November 14, 2020, 01:52:04 PM »
I struggle to verbalise a need for support or how I'm feeling about things which is why I often write things down and let them read it or I send my CC a letter if there's something that I need to discuss but won't have the courage to bring up myself. 

The purpose of the research is to explore the difference between individuals who self-harm and individuals who do not self-harm in terms of self-esteem, self-disgust, and body experience.

There is very little research relating to individuals in the general population who self-harm, and findings are often inconclusive. Therefore, your participation in the study will assist in further understanding this important area. If self-esteem, self-disgust, and body experience in relation to self-harm can be understood, then appropriate support measures can be put in place.

Even if you do not self-harm, you can still take part in the research.

Participants must be over the age of 18 years old.

Participants will be required to complete an online survey, which should take about 20-30 minutes to complete.

If you would like to take part in the survey, please click the following link: 

Trigger warning: this post and the survey talks about self-harm

Hello everyone,

I'm a student at the University of Edinburgh currently doing some research for my clinical psychology training. I'm looking for participants for my research project, anyone aged 16-24 can take part and all responses are hugely appreciated!

The MEESHA (Mentalisation, Expressed Emotion, Self-Harm and Attachment) research project is an online survey for anyone aged 16 to 24 years old. It takes about 20 to 25 minutes to complete. Your answers will help us learn how families can support young people who self-harm.
The survey asks questions about your wellbeing and your family, how your family expresses emotions and how you understand yourself and others. It also asks about self-harm. Your answers are anonymous.

For more information and to take part:

Thanks very much, all help is appreciated!
Survivor Room / Re: SH ED MH Support, moving on etc
« Last post by Rob on November 11, 2020, 11:10:25 PM »
Perhaps if you can work on your self esteem, some of those feelings of guilt/shame would lessen. Professionals are only the same as everyone else, with their own sets of struggles and problems which you might cope with better than them. If you believe that the people you're talking to are on the same level, it's easier to communicate.
Survivor Room / SH ED MH Support, moving on etc
« Last post by mirrhi on November 11, 2020, 09:44:59 PM »
How do you do it? How do you move on? Or how do you actually verbalise a need for support?
Does the shame and guilt ever leave?
I'm not where I was 10 years ago, but I still feel utter shame and humiliation whenever I have to speak to any professionals
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